I'm Not Happy

"Denver Is Stuck In The 90s" (denver80222) 07/16/2014 at 02:31 • Filed to: Parents

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Tonight my parents used the words Appliance & Car in the same sentence. They also said its irresponsible to have any kind of fun behind the wheel

beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 07/16/2014 at 02:34

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do they watch TV? tell them they're only allowed to watch infotainment.

No novels either, just text books.

Going to the park? Park is for exercise only!

Listening to the radio? that better be the weather forecast buddy.

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard 07/16/2014 at 02:37

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This comment of theirs was in response to me flooring the car to 25mph, and taking corners and turns swiftly. I was doing these thing safely and legally

stuttgartobsessed > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 07/16/2014 at 02:37

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Welcome to my life. Just get a job and buy whatever the hell you want. Then, park it down the street so they don't know. Or, wait until college. Then buy an impractical sports car and when your parents visit take them for a drive and watch them crack a never-ending smile.

ly2v8-Brian > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 07/16/2014 at 02:38

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they wot?!

beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 07/16/2014 at 02:39

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that explains every taxi ride I've ever been in.

Soloburrito > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 07/16/2014 at 02:40

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did you then ask if you were adopted?

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > stuttgartobsessed 07/16/2014 at 02:41

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I'm in college, I live at home and take the train because the dorms at the art institute suck, I have a friend from my observational drawing class that lived in the dorms for 2 weeks before she moved back home to pitkin, colorado (a small town with a population of 250 near colorado springs) she commutes to downtown denver everyday now.

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > Soloburrito 07/16/2014 at 02:42

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If only I was. Seriously the only person in my family with any understanding of the gearhead mentality is my cousin who lives in LA. BTW, My dad is an engineer and he still doesnt get it

CRider > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 07/16/2014 at 02:43

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stuttgartobsessed > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 07/16/2014 at 02:44

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She commutes from the Springs to Denver every day? Those must be some shitty dorms. Buy something stylish and then say that you need it for inspiration for your art. But then you'd need two cars so you could drive a beater in the winter (or just continue taking the light rail) so the beauty doesn't rust away. fucking mag chloride.

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard 07/16/2014 at 02:44

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Its a loophole in the rules of the road, and I love exploiting it

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > stuttgartobsessed 07/16/2014 at 02:45

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I'd probably just take RTD, Its a bitch to drive downtown

Josh G > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 07/16/2014 at 02:49

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It is. There are higher pursuits, and likely greater regrets. Take them to an autocross and introduce them to some of the older crowd.

stuttgartobsessed > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 07/16/2014 at 02:51

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Yah, now that there's that new bus station where all of the trains should be. I guess i always go downtown when theres not traffic, so I get there in like 20 min. I'm also coming from south metro/Cherry Hills, so it's somewhat close.

wiffleballtony > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 07/16/2014 at 02:52

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Fun, in and of itself is irresponsible. Instead of having fun there are many sobering activities can be performed to better ourselves and others. Fun isn't banned yet so do it while you can.

stuttgartobsessed > stuttgartobsessed 07/16/2014 at 02:52

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Oh, and I'd take the light rail so much more often if it didn't only give me change in dollar coins. I always end up getting like 12-15 of them. so obnoxious. but I'm glad they're building it to the airport.

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > wiffleballtony 07/16/2014 at 02:55

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Instead of buying a miata and taking corners like I'm Kimi Raikkonen, I'll just buy a prius and read mathematical textbooks while listening to bach. Its the responsible choice. (sarcasm)

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > stuttgartobsessed 07/16/2014 at 02:57

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How close are you to southglenn? Im near monaco and hampden

stuttgartobsessed > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 07/16/2014 at 03:00

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tight. I don't live there anymore, but my parents still do. I moved out of state for college. They're near Hampden/Jefferson/285/whateverthefuckitscalled and Broadway/University

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > stuttgartobsessed 07/16/2014 at 03:01

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I know where that is, My girlfriend lives on euclid and university

Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 07/16/2014 at 03:02

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You should see my parents. They thought a Camry truly is a car compared to...

You pretty much know what I mean. They find a mere tub of waste to be more fun than a Ferrari.

I should disown the- Oh, wait.

stuttgartobsessed > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 07/16/2014 at 03:03

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yah its a chill place. I need to visit soon. But I need to move first. then get a job, then visit. I really want to bring the Alfa to Denver. but that would be one big adventure.

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > stuttgartobsessed 07/16/2014 at 03:07

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Alfa+Denver+You=Fun

Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 07/16/2014 at 03:12

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There's a special place in hell for those who design washers with no (Rinse + Spin) or (Spin Only) options.

stuttgartobsessed > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 07/16/2014 at 03:14

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Right? It'd be mega fun in the mountains. I really want to do Independence Pass in it. I also want to hoon it in the snow, but rust. ugh.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 07/16/2014 at 03:23

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Good god man. I'm sorry.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 07/16/2014 at 03:36

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Dude Prius's are plenty fast, they can take the Ring in about 20 minutes! That's fast right?!

punksmurph > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 07/16/2014 at 03:49

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Your cousin lives in one of the best gear head places on the planet. Cars don't rust out here.

punksmurph > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 07/16/2014 at 03:52

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This is why I don't talk to my mom any more. Her statement was "Cars are to get you from point a to point b. Any sedan will do, these is nothing useful with getting a 2 seat car, you will just waste money. Don't you want to be respected by society." I sure do mom, that is why I follow my dream.

Trevor Mohr > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 07/16/2014 at 03:54

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Yeah, my parents view it the exact same way. It's depressing and sad. Studies show that 100% of people who dislike or lack enthusiasm for the great invention of both the automobile and the internal combustion engine are 100% more likely to be miserable in life.

Cited Source: Reality.

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > punksmurph 07/16/2014 at 04:06

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Its important to follow your dreams, my mom told me that. She doesnt know what shes saying half the time, and I dont think she knows which half is wrong

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > stuttgartobsessed 07/16/2014 at 04:06

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What about guanella?

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > punksmurph 07/16/2014 at 04:09

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He's a retired architect and he studied under Ghery in the 80s. He has HUGE car collection including but not limited to a period correct 57 chevy 150 hot rod, a 69 el camino, an early split window vette and a 62 zo6. He has way more than that just a summary

StingrayJake > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 07/16/2014 at 04:11

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Some people just ain't car people. They see it as a tool, a means of conveyance.

Was eating at a BBQ chain with my in laws and the manager came by to say hello. In the course of conversation he seemed baffled that somebody in his extended family had spent what he seemed an excssive amount of money for... wait for it... a Camaro. They're actually pretty affordable.

Some folks just ain't car people.

zeontestpilot > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 07/16/2014 at 07:04

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Ah. I drive two different ways, the fun way, and the safe way. I drive the fun way when I'm in the car by myself, commuting. The safe way is what my mom and wife sees. Therefore, deniability.

My wife actually knows all this, and she knows that I'm a pretty safe driver, and don't take unnecessary risks. My only issue is going above the speed limit at times (not too far above). But I'm always aware of my surrounds and drive accordingly.

zeontestpilot > punksmurph 07/16/2014 at 07:39

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As a 27 yr old parent I can sort of understand her position. 2 sweater cars aren't very 'practical'.

But as that same 27 yr old parent, I say get it. Not sure of your age, but I've discovered as you get older, things like bills bog you down quickly, and everything you buy has to be practical. Get the 'fun' stuff when you're younger.

Me? I'm hoping for a muscle sedan/wagon one day, :).

mcseanerson > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 07/16/2014 at 08:37

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I'm fortunate in some ways, my mom loves sports cars but doesn't know a whole lot. She had an rx7 before I was born and said her boyfriend before my dad had a cobra and she loves to drive stick. My dad has a 350z and a GMC Sierra but doesn't own a floor jack.....

wkiernan > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 07/16/2014 at 08:46

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Old age is a terrible thing, believe me. Avoid aging as long as possible. Then when you do get old despite everything, buy a sports car, and if anybody uses the phrase "middle-age crisis" in your vicinity, run them over with it.

thebigbossyboss > Trevor Mohr 07/16/2014 at 08:50

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Now that is a study worth publishing in the lancet.

Mattbob > Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura 07/16/2014 at 09:03

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forgive my ignorance, but what is the point of a spin only or rinse+spin cycle? If your clothes are dirty, don't you want to wash them?

MonkeePuzzle > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 07/16/2014 at 09:25

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friend's dad famously said "cars are for going from A to B, not bloody jumping over C!!!"

this may or may not have been after a night of chasing storms in an old Holden (ok, it was HIS old Holden) in order to find slick roads for donuts and drifting...

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 07/16/2014 at 10:25

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I know it's your parents, but it sounds like they need a shovel to the head:

yamahog > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 07/16/2014 at 10:32

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They also said its irresponsible to have any kind of fun behind the wheel

"Absolutely right, mom and dad, having fun on public roads is dangerous! If only I could afford a track day...."

Just gotta play it right ;)

Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura > Mattbob 07/16/2014 at 11:20

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If I needed clothes to have slightly less water before chucking them in the dryer...

stuttgartobsessed > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 07/16/2014 at 12:12

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um, ?

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > stuttgartobsessed 07/16/2014 at 14:58

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Guanella pass, Just outside of georgetown. Its gorgeous up there.

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > yamahog 07/16/2014 at 14:58

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They included trackdays in that sentiment

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > mcseanerson 07/16/2014 at 15:01

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The funny part is my dad is an engineer and my mom's first car was a 73 AMC hornet hatch levis edition, and both of them knows how to drive stick. Yet they still feel this way.

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > zeontestpilot 07/16/2014 at 15:05

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Thats my thing. I never take unnecessary risks and I never go above the speed limit unless its to go with the flow of traffic on the highway (people in denver dont follow the speed limit at night on the highway). So sue me if I like to accelerate to the limit, and take corners sharply, Its perfectly safe and legal.

zeontestpilot > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 07/16/2014 at 15:09

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It is perfectly safe and legal. They are overreacting, sounds like my mother. Did you floor it to 25 in front of them? Or were they in the car?

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > zeontestpilot 07/16/2014 at 15:11

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I floored it to 25 with my dad in the car last night, He asked "why are you going so fast!?!" I laughed and said "Im going 25" This was in a newly serviced 2000 Honda Odyssey I might add.

sketchcat > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 07/16/2014 at 15:21

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By internet standards im old.

By old people standards im young.

which puts me in the position to say the following:

there are many things going on in north american demographics and as a result the culture that is pushing autos to be "appliance d" - to coin a term.

to be brief; there is a LARGE number of people whom are of the age where they naturally become more conservative (hence the political situation). Their tendencies are towards safety,simplicity, things and people that are reliable, and an overall blanket of fear of change/unknowns.

This group is rubbing against the echo boom (a great deal of whom are buying into the gestalt of the older generation unfortunately) but whom also are slave to their youthful outlook of experience seeking and less aversion to risk. This is not as powerful as it should be though.

The one thing that makes them different from the first boom is that they have never had the ability to really set themselves apart form their parents, the economy has pushed them into a more dependent position with their parents and as a result are becoming very cozy with their parent values as they see them as the only reason they have a roof over their heads. ( i see it as STOCKHOLM SYNDROME on a generational scale)

Throw in a media that is fueled by every small story of mayhem, death,and miscreants.

Throw in a healthy dose of the trials of living in a world where we are starting to get in each others way because of population and infrastructure.

..and we get a society that is ripe for and is asking for their lives to be simple and easy with less to be afraid of.

Corporations go where the money is, and unfortunately the older set has the money to spend, therefore we end up with those values that are attached to the consumer are echoed in the marketplace.

By the time the old have moved past any influence on the auto market, the young will have come into their peak earning years and hopefully will not have absorbed too much of those "conservative" points too deeply, but im not holding out much hope for that. (by that time they will be breeding like rabbits and getting all uptight about "the children" like their parents did)

The well has been poisoned.

The culture that this site and Jalopnik represents is destined to be marginalized - perhaps out of existence.

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > sketchcat 07/16/2014 at 15:25

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You just made me cry, that was solemnly beautiful.

ly2v8-Brian > sketchcat 07/16/2014 at 15:33

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You seem to have a good grasp on things.

zeontestpilot > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 07/16/2014 at 15:35

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Ah, that's the problem I had with my mom. Simply, it's this, don't ever do it in front of them. They are parents, they are protective/overprotective. If they think you will hurt yourself somehow, they will lecture you or something similar. And trust me, those lectures aren't worth the pain. I'm 27, married, have a daughter, and I still get lectured by my mom. One time, while using facetime, I told my wife to "go suck an egg" in a very passive way. My mom wasn't too happy, -_- .

As bad as it is to say this, just have some 'fun' driving when they aren't around.

"We're all in this together" - The Red Green Show

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > zeontestpilot 07/16/2014 at 15:41

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All this was after my parents found out my brother took my mom's 2010 CRV up to 117MPH on 6th ave Coming down from lookout mountain at midnight a couple weeks ago. I dont condone speeding on public roadways, there's racetracks for that, like bandimere.

mcseanerson > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 07/16/2014 at 15:44

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My dad's an engineer and he feels about the same, more that my car should be boring cheap and reliable. My mom doesn't even own a car anymore and hasn't for years.

zeontestpilot > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 07/16/2014 at 15:47

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Gosh dang it, that makes the situation worst actually. Is he older or younger?

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > zeontestpilot 07/16/2014 at 15:48

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younger

zeontestpilot > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 07/16/2014 at 16:08

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Hmm, as you can probably tell, you're parents are in protection overdrive. They probably see their kids as reckless behind the wheel. Your brother did make a bad move, and with you accelerating quickly to 25 mph, it probably didn't help the case.

Your parents sort sound like mine would in this situation, I have a younger brother as well. And I've been in similar situations, so the parental hammer is going to come on both of you.

Personally, I would try to get the parental hammer more on my brother and not me. I would show them that I am being safe behind the wheel, doing everything required, and make sure they see it happen. Its sort of manipulative, but it gets them off your back a bit. Its worked wonders for me in the past. I...I have a lot of experience in the area of over-protective parents, lol.

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > zeontestpilot 07/16/2014 at 16:10

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My parents arent just overprotective, My mom is a licensed psychotherapist

zeontestpilot > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 07/16/2014 at 16:54

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Ha, to me that means the difficulty level is a bit higher, but not impossible, :).

She's still human, and human's can become emotional. Yes she can psycho-analyze you, but you're still her child so her assessment can be skewed possibly. She's still human though, and humans can make mistakes.

I'm thinking both your parents were very emotional last night. From experience, roll with the [figurative] punches, tell them they were right, you were wrong, and don't become emotional. If you get emotional, you'll make it worst. Actually, its usually best to keep quiet unless spoken to. You are already in trouble for one thing, don't make it any worst. The heat from them will eventually fade with time.

I'm sort of relieved to hear that I'm not the only one who has protective parents, :).

stuttgartobsessed > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 07/16/2014 at 20:28

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The one that takes you to the base of Bierstadt? and then over to 285 and the town of Grant? Isn't that road dirt?

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > stuttgartobsessed 07/16/2014 at 20:50

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Its paved, and maybe thats the one you are talking about. The entry is at the end of old town georgetown